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Poster: lobster12 Date: Sep 30, 2007 2:45pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: around and around

after the last "til the moon went down" they noodle for a few minutes then start an uptempo beat and finish with a "till the moon went down. Most often they would use this version as a second set closer

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Poster: BryanE Date: Sep 30, 2007 4:23pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: around and around

This is the earliest version of that arrangement that I can confirm:

http://www.archive.org/details/gd92-03-11.sbd.gardner.9398.sbeok.shnf

A little earlier that year they did a show in Atlanta that also closed Set Two with Around & Around, but the sound quality here is very weak---music is all but buried in crowd noise. It looks, though, that it was circa '92 when they starting using it to close shows with a blues shuffle interlude for several bars before Weir returns with the chorus to end the song.

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Poster: johnnyonthespot Date: Oct 1, 2007 8:39am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: around and around

I thought the uptempo ending was circa 76

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Poster: BryanE Date: Oct 1, 2007 9:25am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: around and around

johnny-

After exhaustively searching through the archive and listening to a very lengthy list of performances of Around & Around, the research team has considered your input, and while we certainly appreciate the effort on your part to make sure our findings are as accurate as possible, we have reached the final decision that at this point it doesn't fuckin' matter.

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Poster: johnnyonthespot Date: Oct 1, 2007 10:33am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: around and around

Fine. I never really liked that tune anyway : )

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Poster: barongsong Date: Oct 1, 2007 4:03pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: around and around

You may be right but I'm going to have to wait a week before I can listen to another one.

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Poster: barongsong Date: Sep 30, 2007 5:42pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: around and around

I actually remember a show around 1990 at Shoreline? I think that had this Around & Around that went on forever. I do remember it was the first time I'd heard them do one that long. Looking at setlists now and I think it might be this 6-15-90 show. Currently downloading some stuff so can't check it out myself but that would be a good place to start.
Just checked the reviews for this show and yes this is the show with the "massive Around & Around".

This post was modified by barongsong on 2007-10-01 00:42:33

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Poster: BryanE Date: Sep 30, 2007 6:36pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: around and around

You're right.

I lack the dedication at this point to find others that match lobster's basic description that took place before your 6/15/90 Shoreline show. You might have answered the question. The Shoreline show's version is unique from others I've heard, though, in that they fooled the audience, maybe even themselves, into thinking that they had reached the final big-finish cadence, but instead of calling it quits, they play through the progression another time. Pretty special. Between you, me, lobster, and a fencepost, though, whether they started playing that version as a standard arrangement at or around that time, with the final cadence tease or not, was not made clear from this research.

But we tried.

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Poster: barongsong Date: Sep 30, 2007 8:30pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: around and around

You got a point there because I definatly don't recall seeing any others like this one. Although I guess it may be possible they started doing a slightly longer version after this show maybe. Clearly more research is needed. The next time it's played is at Cardinal Stadium in Louisville so I think I'll check the reviews on that one.
Ok It seems the only difference structurally between the Shoreline A&A and Cardinal Stadium, Cal State and Knickerbocker versions Is that the Shoreline has a longer jam and a double ending. However the Omni in between the Knink and Cal State versions dosn't do the extended ending but instead goes into Good Love. So all in all still inconclusive and I've run out of steam listening to that many A&A's for now.

This post was modified by barongsong on 2007-10-01 03:30:47

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Poster: BryanE Date: Oct 1, 2007 3:28am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: around and around

"I've run out of steam listening to that many A&A's for now"

It can be a bit taxing, can it not?

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Poster: lobster12 Date: Sep 30, 2007 7:56pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: around and around

after further review, they did one at cal state dominguez the first week of may 1990. Since I was there i should have thought of that as a starting point but lacking in energy this week from a flu bug. maybe I'll look into some spring 1990's to see if the trend started earlier.

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Poster: barongsong Date: Sep 30, 2007 9:11pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: around and around

Ok it's the Knick 3-25-90. I couldn't leave well enough alone and did some more Digging and the show before that with Around & Around is Hartford and it does not have the extended version on it. Almost all the 89 shows have A&A segued into another song so it's not there either. Mystery solved.

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Poster: lobster12 Date: Oct 1, 2007 8:51am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: around and around

God bless you sir.

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